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martiin napísal:Pozri sa alfi666 ,my sme sa bavili o tom,že guma neprešmykne ani na ceste a ani na rafiku a zaroveň sa spominalo,že nemeni svoj obvod. tak v tomto pripade sa otačky nemenia![]()
martiin napísal:a teraz ku tomu tvojemu vzorcu ,s tym s tebou suhlasim,tie otačky sa tam podľa mna zväčšuju,tam ide asi o to že sa ta guma podda.
zhmp napísal:Hoši JEBTE NA TO......neverending story........))))))![]()
napr. len taka drobnost ako je zjazdena pneu ti spravi rozdiel cca 2% v ukazovanej rychlosti
(pocital som to u 16" diskov 55ky profilu gumy a zjazdeny dezen som bral 2mm a novy dezen 7mm)
taktiez spravi rozdiel prehustena/podhustena pneu ...
alfi666 napísal:
Mna ale skutocne zaujima ako to je
alfi666 napísal:Podla mna sa nemusi ani disk presmykovat ani guma... len ta guma ten svoj obvod rozprestrie po asfalte, ale pocet otacok na hriadeli sa pri rovnakej vzdialenosti zvysi
DIRECT VS. INDIRECT
Direct Systems
attach a pressure sensor/transmitter to the vehicle's wheel inside the tire's air chamber. An in-car receiver warns the driver instantly if the pressure in any one tire falls below a pre-determined level.
Indirect Systems
use the vehicle's antilock braking system's wheel speed sensors to compare the rotational speed of one tire vs. the others. If one tire is low on pressure, it will roll at a different number of revolutions per mile than the other three tires, and alert the vehicle's onboard computer.
Indirect TPMS do not use physical pressure sensors. Indirect TPMS measure the "apparent" air pressure, by monitoring individual wheel rotational speeds, and other signals available outside the tire itself. Most indirect TPMS use the fact that an under-inflated tire has a slightly smaller diameter than a correctly inflated tire and therefore has to rotate at a higher angular velocity to cover the same distance as a correctly inflated tire. Newer developments of indirect TPMS can also detect simultaneous under-inflation in up to all four tires using vibration analysis of individual wheels or analysis of load shift effects during acceleration and/or cornering, which can be realized in software using advanced signal processing techniques. However the vibration analysis technique requires the use of additional suspension sensors which result in increased complexity and cost of the overall system.
Indirect TPMS are realized in software in combination with wheel speed sensors for anti-lock braking systems, and electronic stability control systems. A disadvantage of indirect TPMS is that the driver must calibrate the system by pushing a reset button on the dashboard or through the on-board computer and if this is performed when any tire is in an underinflated condition then the system will not report correctly.
Indirect Monitoring Systems
In the interest of providing a lower cost Original Equipment system, indirect tire pressure monitoring systems were developed by vehicle manufacturers wishing to comply with the law while minimizing development time and cost. Indirect systems use the vehicle's antilock braking system's wheel speed sensors to compare the rotational speed of one tire to that in another position on the vehicle. If one tire is low on pressure, its circumference changes enough to roll at a slightly different number of revolutions per mile than the other three tires. Reading the same signal used to support ABS systems, the vehicle manufacturers have programmed another function into the vehicle's onboard computer to warn the driver when a single tire is running at a reduced inflation pressure compared to the others.
Unfortunately, indirect tire pressure monitoring systems have several shortcomings. Indirect systems won't tell the drivers which tire is low on pressure, and won't warn the driver if all four tires are losing pressure at the same rate (as occurs during the fall and winter months when ambient temperatures get colder). Additionally, our current experience with indirect systems indicates that they can generate frequent false warnings. We have found that false warnings may occur when the tires spin on wet, icy and snow-covered roads. In these cases, the false alarms would train the driver to disregard the tire pressure monitoring system's warnings, negating its purpose completely.
alfi666 napísal:Ach jaj...samozrejme netvrdim, ze rozdiel tych otacok je tak velky, ze si to clovek vsimne na tacho... ale ten rozdiel tam JE![]()
Vsetci neveriaci Tomasovia (aj Marosovia) nech hladaju v googli INDIRECT TIRE PRESSURE MONITORING
BlackMW napísal:vplyv tlaku na obvod pneu je preto podla mna silne sa bliziaci nule.